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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 21 Apr 93       Volume 11 : Issue 85

Today's Topics:

      (Q) Apple 40 Meg HD
      24-bit onboard video
      32k colors on LCIII (A) from Carl Sagan fan
      4th Dimension v3.0 COPY PROTECTED!
      68040 clock doubling?
      9" b&w display on 13" color monitor (Q)
      A comment about Info-Mac (C
      A comment about Info-Mac (R)
      Address of Authors of Expressionist. (R)
      A Free Registration Number for X-FerIt
      After Conflict Checker DEMO, ... (C) again
      Al Bloom's Ethernetlet
      aliases (A)
      AOL rates lowered!
      Apple's Doohickies
      Apple 16" w/ Centris 610 problem (q)
      AppleCare(less)
      AppleTalk to internet connection -- Help?
      Backsplash
      Battery rechargers/reconditioners for Powerbooks
      bizarre talk behavior on internet (Q)
      Boomerang and System 7
      Canvas vs. Illustrator vs. Freehand
      Canvas vs. Intellidraw
      Check your facts (follow-up)
      Conflict Catcher demo
      Cutting Edge HD Driver wanted
      DEC laser 1152
      e-mail for Apple Canada needed
      Educational Software for the Mac (A)
      Ethernet Questions
      Ethernet Questions (A)
      Expressionist publishers (A)
      f2c converter for MPW???
      Film Recorder (Summurize)
      Frequently Asked Questions?
      Home printers -- B&W or Color? (Q)
      How similar are Performas to their "straight" counterparts?
      How to install an FKEY ? (Q)
      How to xfer 150 megs over 3
      HP LaserJet 4 to 4M alternatives (Q)
      HP LaserJet III Driver
      Icons for harddrives (A)
      Icons for harddrives in 7.1 free how (A)
      IIci memory capacity (C)
      Info-Mac Requests
      INTERNET PILOT ANNOUNCEMENT
      I want a capslock key that talks to me! (A)
      Jap System SW
      John Snow, Call Home
      Key Combo?
      Latest Version of TattleTale ? (Q)
      LC III and System Software
      LocalTalk and Ethernet simultaneously (Q)
      Looking for David Oster/Mosaic Codes FOUND!
      Mac-X & System 7.1
      Mac IIcx's and 3Com Cards
      MACINTAX and ChipSoft (C)
      MacX + System 7.1 =..... Trouble! (im-081)
      MouseMats (2 msgs)
      Mousemats (R)
      mousepads
      Need artistic talent for Mech-type game development
      New Performa Series... Apple Press Release
      Norton Utilities 2.0 (Q)
      Performa 450
      PhotoGrade
      Powerbook External Video (Q)
      Powerbook Fax Modem
      Powerbook Issues
      Q:Phonetic-Symbol's font
      Quadra KO's 486 PC in photoshop 2.5 tests
      Random StartupScreen (R)
      RES  Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines
      REXEC for the Mac
      Software Donations
      Software Licensing Software
      Something about the Laserwriter IIf
      Suitcase 2.1.3
      Summary: MacX or eXodus (2nd try)
      time logging program wanted (Q)
      To FPU or not to FPU...
      Unmountit
      UnMountIt (A) (2 msgs)
      UPS Recommendations
      VersaTerm-Pro vs. Quadra
      Weird OzTeX behavior (more comments)
      What's Mac-L?
      X server h/w and s/w, including 3-button mice (S)

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Date: 21 Apr 1993 15:09:00 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (Q) Apple 40 Meg HD

I have an Apple 40Meg Quantum drive that came out of my IIsi.  I bought
a external case for the drive and now I can't seem to be having problems
with the scsi connection.  The external case has a push button scsi
selector switch but there is no obvious way to connect it to the HD.
There are 2 rows of pins on the hard drive that weren't used when it was
in the si, that I assume is for some type of scsi id selection.  However,
the case only has a cable with a single row of 5 pins.  My question is,
how do I connect this scsi id selection cable or modify the hard drive
itself (ie, pull some jumpers) to set the HD to some other scsi id.
Any help would be greatly apperciated.  Thanks.
Dave

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:34:03 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: 24-bit onboard video

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Tony Huang wrote:
> > Q700 may not be as expensive as it used to be, but it's no cheapie. The
> >Q700 is probably a great bargain if you can still find one. It's built for
> >speed and funtionality without much cost consideration (unlike the C650
> >which is designed to be a middle-of-line machine with a cheap case --
> >cheap-looking, too -- and without 24-bit color capability -- unless you
> >spend >$1000 for an accelerated 24-bit video board).
>
> Thats right.  But the Quadra 800 also has the same video 'limitation'.
> Both do only 16 bit video, but thats still a lot of colors !  Anyone but a
> graphic artist probably wouldn't see the difference.  Having used a
> Centris-650 next to my Quadra-700, the C-650 seems a little snappier.
> The fast 230 Meg disk is especially nice.  I could live with the case.
>
> Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble, FRANCE ([e-mail]) Fax (France=33).76.48.39.06

Anyone interested in this subject of 24-bit color and being limited
to 16-bit in all of Apple's current machines other than the Q950 should
check out TidBITS#173, in which Glenn Fleishman has an editorial about
just this topic. He feels that the difference is more noticeable than
many think, and that 24-bit color will become more important in the
future as Photo CD and new television formats become more common.

  info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-173.etx

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 09:42:18 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 32k colors on LCIII (A) from Carl Sagan fan

I have seen in multiple books on the subject that a minimum of 16.8 million
colors is required before the human eye can't distinguish between them.
That is true for 256 shades of gray as well.  Why go beoynd 16.8million
colors then?  The arguments continue, but it seems 16.8million is all you
need.

        Aric Friesen

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 02:14:11 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Owen Crowley)
Subject: 4th Dimension v3.0 COPY PROTECTED!

[e-mail] asks (preceding material deleted)
> I don't dare to optimize my hard disk, for fear that the ORIGINAL
program disk may not last forever.  Is anybody else concerned about
this?

If indeed that is how it works for you, it is indeed cause for concern
(although you should be able to replace the program disk).

Are you sure the defragmenting is the culprit?  I have been using
DiskExpress with no complaints from 4D.

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 17:08:46 UTC+0200
From: Rafael Collantes <[e-mail]>
Subject: 68040 clock doubling?

In a recent infomac someone stated that the 60840 mp has internal clock
doubling like the 486 DX2. IMHO, that is NOT the case. The prformance
difference between a 030 and a 040 at the same frequency, arises from the
following facts:
a) bigger internal Data and Instruction Cache on the 040
b) Instruction optimization
c) Pipelining, the processor is able to start decoding a instruction while
executing the precedent and fetching the next.
d) on Floating-point instructions, the 040 has the FPU integrated on the chip,
so communication between CPU and FPU is much much faster. On the other hand,
some of the operations that are hardware-implemented on the 68882 FPU (the 030
FPU) have to be emulated by the in-040 FPU. That is, the in-040 FPU is simpler
than the 68882, which is the FPU on 68030 Macs.

If anyone has any other information regarding clock-doubling on the 040,
please
share it with the net. As far as I know, only the 486, Alpha and R4000 chips
implement clock-doubling.

regards from Spain.
Rafael Collantes
Instituto de Investigacion Tecnologica
Madrid, Spain.

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Date: 20 Apr 1993 17:05:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "William M. Porter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 9" b&w display on 13" color monitor (Q)

Help, please, somebody. Some time ago I think I read here about a piece
of software that will allow me to see on my 13" Applecolor monitor ONLY
what I would see on a 9" b&w monitor of the sort that comes in the
compact Macs (Classic II, &c). Was I hallucinating or does such a program
or extension exist? Is it safe to use? Where could I find it? I'm trying
to develop a database for my wife to use on her Classic II, and it would
be nice if I could view precisely what she will view as she uses it.

Thanks in advance.

Will Porter / University of Houston, Houston, TX

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Date: 20 Apr 1993 13:39:16 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: A comment about Info-Mac (C

     A comment about Info-Mac (C)
>Some subscribers to the network are feeling left out because their requests
>for information are not answered.  Some Info-Mac'ers have put in more than
>their fair share of time answering requests.  Many of us learn from their
>responses to other's request.  I believe the problem is not that Info-Mac
>has grown to much or that those of us who subscribe are all a bunch of
>greedy self-serving republicans.  No, the problem is that there are no
>guidelines that will spare those who have high levels of expertise and have
>answered many questions in the past from feeling that this basic question is
>another imposition on their time and that will guide those who have less
>expertise than the experts but more than those asking help feeling they
>SHOULD answer the questions they can.
(...stuff deleted...)

I've been watching this thread for a few days now, and decided it time for me
to add my two copper coins worth....

I'm a frequent contributor to Info-Mac because I like helping people out.  I
like explaining things to people so they can comprehend it---it's my teaching
background that instills that.  But I do it in my spare time---usually at home
or during my 1-hour (one way) commute to and from work on the bus.  I usually
read the Info-Mac and then try to respond right away.  You might remember
about
a month ago, where you'd see a *MINIMUM* of one post a day from me, and
sometimes as many as 7 or 8.  I like doing it.

Well, now my time's been quite a bit more occupied.  Coupled with this, you
might have seen my post recently about my cracked PB170 screen (this is what I
use during the commute), so I was without a computer to respond to posts in my
spare time.  It has nothing to do with not caring or figuring that someone
else
will answer it (although there's been a couple of times I thought this way,
after a couple of days not seeing a solution posted, I'll try to post my own
solution anyways).

So, in my case, I like to respond.....when I have time.  Sure, there are FAQs,
but (this also comes from my teaching background) the only DUMB question is
the
one that goes unasked.  So, keep 'em coming!!

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 07:47:13 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Peter N Lewis)
Subject: A comment about Info-Mac (R)

[e-mail] writes:

>   1.  Expert netters such as Alen Bloom and Wade Williams, just to name two
>of many, should not bother to answer routine questions.
>   2.  The introduction to the net should ask novices to down load the FAQ
>files to try out the down loading instructions.
>   3.  Netters who see a question they have recently, say in the last three
>months, learned the answer to should consider themselves responsible for
>answering the question.

Perhaps it should be more along the lines of, if someone asks a routine
question, especially one in the FAQ, then others who have just learned
the answer should mail the FAQ to them - that will answer their question
as well as lots of others they didn't even know they should ask.

>   4.  Netters should refrain from publicly criticizing the spelling or
>   writing abilities
>of people who venture to express themselves on the net.  A private message
>explaining subject-verb agreement or split infinitives would help them
without
>embarrassment.  Embarrassing criticism keeps many from participating.

I would have thought that would go without saying - especially since for
many people, English is their second language, and for many more of us,
English is there first language, but they either can't or won't be
bothered with figuring out what a split infinitive is.  Just because you
can and you care about whether the subject and verb agree, doesn't mean
anyone else does or should.

>   5.  Exchew obfuscation.

The biggest problem with the net, is often that you get not only the
correct answer, but several incorrect answers as well.  People shouldn't
expect the net to provide neatly wrapped and packaged answers, they
should hope that they'll get some clue as to where the answer lies and
then do a bit of their own work to figure out what exactly the answer
is.  And perhaps, after that, they should consider posting a message
with an answer instead of a question - I often think the net would be
better if more people posted answers instead of questions.  What other
medium is driven almost entirely by questions?  Of course, no other
medium could be driven by questions ... :-)
   Peter.

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>           Ph: [phone]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 04:47:55 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Address of Authors of Expressionist. (R)


On Tue, 20 Apr 93 Peter Hardman <[e-mail]> asked:
> Does anyone have current information regarding the authors of
> Expressionist. This program lets's you build up complex eqations and
> formulea and then save them as PICT files.

Peter--

Try <[e-mail]>.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 14:00:37 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: A Free Registration Number for X-FerIt

OK, a few people have kept bugging me about the fact I agreed to talk with
Steve Falkenberg about his X-FerIt program and shareware payments.  I
relayed Steve's message about the fact that he no longer is supporting
X-FerIt and that the address listed on it is no longer even correct or being
forwarded.  Despite all this, some people still insist on getting a
registration number or their money back.  In this vein, Steve has agreed to
giving out a universal site licence to everyone so that the registration
dialog can be disabled.  The name is "anonymous" and the number is
550035173-2.  Have at it folks!

Jon

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 10:11:52 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Michel Eytan, LILoL)
Subject: After Conflict Checker DEMO, ... (C) again

Hi Netters,

Have just received from Jeffrey L. Robbin a mail saying:

>Conflict Catcher 1.39b Demo
>
>This version corrects an incompatibility that some users running
>System 6 experienced.  The problem only occurred in the Demo
>version, and does not affect users running System 7.  Casady &
>Greene, Inc. apologizes for any inconvenience that this may have
>caused.
>
>New Demo Version!  Download Conflict Catcher(tm) and let's get to
>work on your startup file problems!

Thank you Jeffrey for the *fast* response and please excuse me for flaming
your product that works *very well* on System 7. Shall try it out and let
the list know what happened.

-- [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 02:54:41 PST
From: "John Saxton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Al Bloom's Ethernetlet

What? Al Bloom is asking a question? He doesn't know *everything* about Macs?
;-) (I'm awed by Al's knowledge of all things Macintosh, and very proud to
know
something he doesn't.)

In response to the question of putting a small home Mac network on Ethernet,
my
big comment is that you should go with thin (coaxial, 10Base2) Ethernet rather
than 10BaseT. For more than 2 nodes, 10BaseT *requires* a hub. The least
expensive hub would be a Shiva (?) Hublet or some such product you can find in
the back of MacWeek, but that would still be >$500. If you go with thin
Ethernet, you just use coax BNC T-connectors and use a bus topology.

You should
compare the costs of hublet+10BaseT cards to the cost of installing new coax
cabling+Thinnet cards. I'm assuming that you're using PhoneNet now, and not
actual Apple LocalTalk shielded cabling. If you *are* using Apple's cable
system, then I see little use in looking at 10BaseT any longer. Just decide on
coax and be done with it.

One more note: If you are using PhoneNet, and plan on using existing wiring
for
10BaseT, think again. I believe 10BaseT requires data-grade unshielded
twisted-pair wiring, while PhoneNet is happy with voice-grade. Check what you
have installed. Also, 10BaseT requires 4 wires, as opposed to PhoneNet's 2.

Hope I've helped.
John Saxton <[e-mail]>
The opinions expressed ...blah blah.

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Date: 20 Apr 1993 13:23:55 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: aliases (A)

     aliases (A)
>I am trying to run some programs from a fileserver and have set-up
>aliases to the server for the individual programs.  However, there is
>one minor problem.  If the server is not on the desktop and someone
>double-clicks on their file, a dialog box comes up saying the program
>can not be found.
>Double-clicking on a file will not pick up the alias which points to the
>application on the fileserver.  Is there anyway to solve that or am I
>burdened by having to launch the application first and opening the file
>within the application?  Thanks.

One possibility would be to use the drag-and-drop feature of System 7.
Drag the file(s) that you wish opened onto the program alias, and it will
initiate the mounting of the server, launching of the app, and opening of
the file(s) specified.

Hope this helps!!

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 14:27 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: AOL rates lowered!

America On Line has announced some new LOWER rates for access.(AOL is one
of the U. S. national bulletin board services reachable through a network
of local phone numbers.) AOL has a huge amount of Mac software available
and many Mac-related bulletin boards, with access to numerous
software/hardware providers and (limited) Internet mail access provided as
well. Considering what's available on AOL, I think with the new rates it
offers the best value for typical Mac owners, far above GEnie, CompuServe,
DELPHI, AppleLink, or the much-denounced Prodigy (which just RAISED its
prices, charging for bulletin board usage which was formerly untimed).

The new rates are $9.95 per month (includes five hours of usage any time of
day, effective May 1) and $3.50 per hour for usage above that any time of
day (effective July 1). The long-awaited 9600 baud access should be
available within a few months (and, rumor has it, will NOT be at a higher
cost than the current 2400 baud access). Call 1-800-827-6364 for more info.

Obviously, each service has advantages and disadvantages depending on what
services are used. DELPHI has the lowest prices: $20 for 20 hours of usage
in non-prime-time--but in my experience it has much LESS to offer Mac
users. Much technical info and quick expert help is available only on
AppleLink. CompuServe's bulletin boards are great--but they cost $16.00 per
hour at 9600 baud for subscribers at the basic membership rate. GEnie,
Prodigy, and CompuServe have useful untimed services for just a basic
monthly rate.
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: 21 Apr 93 17:01:25 U
From: Evans-CIC-IS <[e-mail]>
Subject: Apple's Doohickies

I am sure some of you might have grabbed the latest freeware from Apple called
the "Doohickies".   This was announced in MacWeek 4.12.93.  What they really
are; are filesharing/Appleshare 3.X "UnSupported" utilities.  I got a copy of
the four utils today and am having no luck getting one of them to work.  The
one is called AppleShareSetup; a control panel that allows you to eliminate
the
alerts or just disappear after a while.
After installing it in the system folder/controls panel...restart, etc.  When
I
try to open it, I get an error:  "Cannot be used with this macintosh".

These files did not come with a readme, or an installer.  So whats the deal?
Is this software for the client or server?   Anybody know?

FYI...The other (3) three utils are applications that told me I had to have
Program linking on first.  Remote Control and Server Controller the Mac-Owner
the ability to turn on/off file sharing for their Mac over the LAN.  UnMountIt
allows you to dismount (drag and drop) removable drives (even CD's) without
turning off file sharing or rebooting the Mac.

Thanx
TroyE
--
Troy D. Evans   MacNetMgr   [e-mail]
Micom Macintosh/PC/UNIX Users Assistance Group  Redstone Arsenal AL

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 12:47:14 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Dean Burris)
Subject: Apple 16" w/ Centris 610 problem (q)

I have an apple 16" color monitor that I bought from a friend. I hooked
it up my new Centris 610 using apple cables and the 610's built in
video.
   When I use a vertical scroll bar or when data is coming in from
my modem and onto the screen, I get multiple (3 or so) horizontal
white lines (flashes) across the whole screen. This does not always
happen, but at least half of my sessions.
   I've tried different cables. It still happended.
   I tried the monitor off my powerbook 160 using the same cable and
      it did not happen (coincidence?).
   I tried hooking my centris up to another monitor. It did not happen,
      but it could also be coincidence. (it was a matching monitor).
Because the problem is intermittant, the test results are not conclusive.
If it matters, I run 7.1 without any particularly odd extensions. Does
anyone have any info on this problem or suggestions.

mail responses to me directly,please.
Dean Burris
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 21:12:51 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: AppleCare(less)

Tom Scott stated:

> I also feel that the warranties/AppleCare agreements should count
> for *SOMETHING*. I can understand that if the machines were out of
> warranty or not covered by AppleCare, where they could be justified
> charging these exhorbitant prices, but those people whose machines
> ARE still under warranty, or, even more importantly, those people
> that pay the "insurance premiums" known as AppleCare should *NOT*
> be required to foot the entire bill, especially in the absence of
> an established Apple policy of what constitutes "computer misuse".

Well, just to add to the flame, I dropped AppleCare on my IIsi.  The
main reason was because during the year I had a failure on my IIsi.
Turned out to be a bad SIM, which I had to find myself.  (Not a
terrible task, but one I would rather have an Apple dealer do.)
The reason I had to do it myself was that my local Apple(care) dealer
told me that SIMs were not covered unless they were Apple original.
Mine were not. (But I don't see an Apple label on the SIMs they put
in their machines)!

I have to agree that Apple can't be responsible for every third party
device that we put in their computers.  But SIMs are standard items
and fail rarely enough that Apple should cover them IMHO.  It just seems
that we are paying a premium price and getting cut rate service.  You can buy
a brand new 200 meg hard drive for every year of AppleCare charges
for the IIsi!   So I am risking it.

In more than one sense AppleCare is an insurance policy.  They want
to clean your pocket, but when you need them all the fine print kicks
in!

Just a comment.


Jeff Fritz
West Virginia University

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Wyant <[e-mail]>
Subject: AppleTalk to internet connection -- Help?

Hello all:

I had such a great response last time I
asked for help, I thought I'd impose
upon the net again.  By default, I find
myself as the administrator of a
50-user AppleTalk network, which is
divided into two zones (soon to be
three, 'cause it's ungodly slow right
now).  I want to offer my faculty
Internet e-mail access from their
desks, preferably by using the
MicroSoft Mail 3.1 I inherited, so I
don't have to teach any new tricks.  I
would also like to offer AppleTalk
Remote Access to at least some of the
users.  My main problem is the single
2400 B. Shiva netmodem I have, which
doesn't have an ARA script, nor do they
plan to write one, thank you very much,
since they want to sell their LANRover.
 Another problem is a constrained
budget.  A third problem is that, as
usual, I have gotten myself in over my
technical head.  I think I want to buy
a number of modems (3?), install 3
dedicated phone lines, and a router of
some sort, but that doesn't solve the
MSMail to Internet problem.  I've tried
to set up a RUbe Goldberg link of
MSMail to Versatilites, to MailLink
Remote, but I just don't know enough to
make that work.  Anybody who's done
something like this, please advise.  I
have a feeling there are quite a few
people out there who have had or are
about to have this problem, and I will
gladly summarize for Info-Mac.  Thanks.


Scott Wyant
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 20:26:00 CEST
From: Vittorio Dell'Aiuto <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backsplash

Thanks a million to David Watt and Al Bloom that sent Backsplash to me;
pnow, for a couple of weeks, I can forward the file to anyone is
interested.
Since my mail gateway has a limit of 32 Kb for outgoing messages, I hope
you don't mind that the file is split in two parts.

Nice place the Net!

Vittorio Dell'Aiuto   ***   [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 22:47:39 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Battery rechargers/reconditioners for Powerbooks

I was just tumbing through a catalogue and I noticed a PowerBook
Battery Charger/Conditioner for Powerbook 140 or 170. It alleges to
perlong the life of the battery by discharging the battery before
recharging it. How much of a factor is this? Also, can I conclude that
this is not an issue for other PowerBooks?

Also, does anyone use battery chargers? I would like to know if they
are a recommended purchase. Thanks-Pete Tamas

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 08:21:59 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Peter N Lewis)
Subject: bizarre talk behavior on internet (Q)

[e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman) writes:

>After a while (it seems inevitable), the connection breaks without either of
>us asking it to (talk doesn't even say "connection closed" - I just get my
>prompt back). When I try to talk him again, it says "waiting for invitation
>on caller's machine", which it never gets.

There are several problems here, first and foremost is the fact that
Talk wins prizes for the worlds most brain dead protocol, its
incompatible with itself, with different versions, even the same version
is sometimes incompatible on a single machine.  Arghh!

What is likely happening here, is that the Talk server on the machine
(talkd) thinks you are already connected to the person, and therefore,
when you ask to connect to them, it ignores you.  There is no
solution.  If you have MacTCP, you can try my Talk program
(info-mac/comm), but its unlikely to help a great deal (but you do get
all the nice features of a Mac interface, even if it does crash a bit
more frequently than I'd like).
   Peter.
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>           Ph: [phone]

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Date: 21 Apr 1993 07:32:22 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Greg Wertz - 'system')
Subject: Boomerang and System 7

I tried using Boomerang 2.02 on a MAC LCII running System 7.1.  When I boot,
the Boomerang icon is displayed with an X over it.  Is Boomerang incompatible
with System 7?

Greg
[e-mail] (26.4.0.149)

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Date: 20 Apr 1993 16:44:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: TREND SETTER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Canvas vs. Illustrator vs. Freehand

Could somebody help clarify for me the primary differences between
Canvas 3.x, illustrator 3.2, and Freehand?

I have heard people classify the above in such categories as
"painting", "CAD", "Drawing", & "illustration" type programs.

Where does each program zero in on the above categories, and what may
be some of the pro/cons that classify them as such.

Thanks

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 14:57:55 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Canvas vs. Intellidraw

Earl Misanchuk asks for a comparison of Canvas and Intellidraw. A while
ago I posted such a question on the net which brought responses from users
of both programs. I can't do the feature-by-feature comparison Earl would
like, but I can say that users of the programs seem all to be happy campers.
If there is a specific can-it-do... question you'd like answered, you should
ask it. Both programs appear to be appropriate for technical illustration.

Ever the contrarian, I decided to go for CricketDraw III, especially
when I found out that SuperPaint users can get it for about $50. (If
you're a registered SuperPaint owner Aldus will sell you Intellidraw
for about $95- mention this to Computer Associates and they'll sell
you CDIII for the low price, even tho' that's supposed to be available
only to users of "high-end" drawing programs. Deneba may be susceptible
to the same arm-twisting - their sidegrade is officially only for
Illustrator and FreeHand users.)

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 22:44:56 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: Check your facts (follow-up)

This's a follow-up to my previous posting on the subject, which pointed out
that Motorola '040 chips are not clock doubler (in the sense of the Intel
DX2 chips). I've since gotten an e-mail from someone who disputed this,
citing the report "mac-ibm-compare" (which is archived in the /report
directory). It's stated in the report that '040 can be considered a clock
doubler and an '040 is roughly equivalent to a Intel 486DX2 at twice the
frequency. This's incorrect. The 66MHz 486DX2 chip is rated at about 50
MIPS while the Motorola 33Mhz '040 is rated at 29 MIPS.

BTW, I believe the Mac's are vastly superior to the PeeCee's. However, at
the chip level, Intel (with its DX2 chips and upcoming clock triplers) is
way ahead of Motorola (in its schedule, not necessarily design). That's one
of the major reasons Apple is adopting PowerPC chips.

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:29:32 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Conflict Catcher demo

I haven't tried the demo version of Conflict Catcher that Jeff Robbin
posted, but I would like to state that it wasn't meant to be a cruel
joke or anything like that. I use the commercial version of CC now,
having received it for review for MacUser, and although I would like
a bigger window, cleaner look, and better sets, I must say that Conflict
Catcher is indeed extremely useful for tracking down INIT conflicts.

I'm especially surprised about these problems with the demo because
the commercial version does very little in terms of patching, and
you can shut that off. The reason I like CC is that it does nothing
I couldn't do by hand if I had a gob of time to track conflicts. In
other words, all it does to track conflicts is move extensions around
according to a complex algorithm. I also tested Casady & Greene's
Crash Barrier, and found that although some people may have had good
luck with it, it did too much funky stuff at a low level, patching
everything in sight, to make me comfortable with it.

cheers ... -Adam

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 18:45 GMT
From: Fergus Sullivan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cutting Edge HD Driver wanted

Does anyone have up-to-date driver software for Cutting Edge hard disks?
Also,
does anyone know if this can also format a Mac's internal drive?  (I know for
a
fact that Cutting Edge software can do this.)

Finally, and as an alternative to the above, does anyone have an email address
for sales or technical support at Cutting Edge?

Thanks all,

Fergus Sullivan.
Sun-drenched Dublin, Ireland.  Honest!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 21:49:19 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Uri Guttman)
Subject: DEC laser 1152

I recently bough a DEC laser 1152 printer for my mac classic and SUN
workstation. I have it hooked up to the mac on its localtalk port and
it works fine in general. The problem is with envelopes.

The printer seems to print reverse in landscape mode. The paper tray
shows an envelope with the flap on the right edge (just like my
personal laserwriter LS) but it prints the text facing the other way.
I have to put in the envelopes with the flap on the left side. This
makes using the easy envelope+ program a pain. I have to experiment to
find the correct offsets instead of just measuring them.

I know I can reverse the printing in the page setup options box, but
then printing starts way over on the left side of the tray and the
guide only holds envelopes to the right!. It seems that DEC has a
reversal in their text output.

I may start trying to feed envelopes in top edge first and experiment
with that.

Does anyone out there have one of these on a mac and what do you do
with this problem?

I bought it for $999 (including $100 rebate from DEC) and it has
postscript level2 and 17 fonts. For $299 I can get a cartridge with 26
more fonts.

EMAIL answers to me and I will summarize if anyone requests it.

Thanx.

Uri Guttman

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 13:18:52 CHT
From: [e-mail] (Patricio Mason)
Subject: e-mail for Apple Canada needed

Denizens of netland,

Does anybody out there have an e-mail address for Apple Canada?  I'm one of
those unfortunate customers whose 13" RGB came with a defective high
voltage capacitor.  This had to be replaced and now I'm going after Apple of
Canada, which is where I bought the equipment, to demand reimbursement.

Thanks in advance for any help.


Patricio Mason
International Communication Solutions Ltd.
Specialist Translation and Multilingual Productions
Santiago, Chile
Tel./Fax: [phone]
Tel.: [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 15:16:48 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Educational Software for the Mac (A)

Apple itself publishes a heavy tome called the "Mac Educational Software
Guide". You can get it by writing to "Mac Ed Sftwr Guide, Apple, 20330
Stevens Creek Blvd, M/S 36-AN, Cupertino, CA 95014.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 21:44:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Uri Guttman)
Subject: Ethernet Questions

[e-mail] writes:

>Then we get to the printers. Both are localtalk devices. I could spend
>like $150 for Sonic's LaserBridge software solution, but I suspect there
>is a better solution for not too much more money. Dayna's EtherPrint 2.0
>connects two localtalk printers to ethernet for a tad over $300. And does
>not need a host Mac fired up. Sounds like just what I need. Am I right?

>I prostrate myself before you in my ignorance and pray enlightenment.

>Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

I have a similar need. I have a classic and a DEC laser 1152 printer
which has localtalk and serial ports. I also have a SUN workstation. I
want to put the classic and the printer on a thinnet ethernet
connected to the sun. I found someone on the net who is selling a scsi
to ether box. I need info on the Dayna's EtherPrint 2.0 box or
equivilent.

Also I am looking for info on mactcp or something like it which will
allow the mac to NFS mount my sun's disks.

Uri Guttman

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 21:27:24 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet Questions (A)

Allan Bloom asks:

> The tax refund came in. I'm thinking of spending part of it to upgrade
> our home netlet (two Macs, a LaserWriter IIf, and a Tek Phaser PXi color
> printer) from localtalk to ethernet. May I impose on you network gurus
> to (1) check my existing thinking and (2) answer a question or two?

> I'm thinking a 10baseT system. I'm happy with the Asante cards we have
> at the office. Looking at MacWarehouse, I can get the Nubus cards for
> some $160 each and a minihub for $249. Am I OK so far?

Obviously, Allan didn't use MacInTax for his return!  ;-)  Opps!  Sorry
about that!  I just couldn't resist!

I have a home Ethernet LAN running with the Asante card and Asante
10T/Hub 8.  I am happy with the price and performance I get on both
items.  They just seem to keep running.

> One of my concerns is wire length. The RJ45 wires that came with our
> Asante cards at the office are a tad short for running between my Mac
> and Leslye's in the next room. The usual mail order suspects don't even
> mention cables. Inmac has cables. It looks like level three is the way to
> go, but what is the difference between 2-pair and 4-pair cables?

10-Base-T cables are easy to get, or, if your handy with a crimper and
can follow the color convention, you can make them up yourself.  I prefer
to buy them.  Outfits like Black Box sell 10-Base-T cables.

A 2-pair cable has two twisted pair cables.  Similarly, a four pair
cable has four twisted pair cables in the sheath.  10-Base-T uses two
pair (one pair is for send, one is for receive) as compared to LocalTalk
which uses a single pair.  10-Base-T will run in four pair cables, but
it is a good idea not to run anything else in the cable with it.  There
is also a difference in level.  ANSI has defined different levels for
UTP (unshielded twisted pair) cable.  10-Base-T requires at least level
three cable.  Some companies are installing level five cable because it
will handle future 100 MB over copper LANs.  The difference in levels
has to do with interwire capacitance and signal cancellation and, of
course, price.  With level three cable you're good for up to 100 meters.

> Then we get to the printers. Both are localtalk devices. I could spend
> like $150 for Sonic's LaserBridge software solution, but I suspect there
> is a better solution for not too much more money. Dayna's EtherPrint 2.0
> connects two localtalk printers to ethernet for a tad over $300. And does
> not need a host Mac fired up. Sounds like just what I need. Am I right?

I use a Dayna EtherPrint-T to connect to my printers and also to my son's
Mac Plus and my PowerBook 170.  It seems to work pretty well.  I had
some hardware problems with the first one I received.  Dayna offered to
exchange it for a new unit.  I took them up on their offer and the new
one has been just fine.

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 09:15:05 -0400
From: [e-mail] (David B. Reiser)
Subject: Expressionist publishers (A)

Expressionist (the equation editor) is published by:

Prescience Corporation
939 Howard Street
San Francisco, CA 94103
[phone]
Applelink D0588

That's the address that's on the back of the Expressionist 3.0 manual,
released
last year. If I'm remembering correctly, Allan Bonadio Assoc. became
Prescience
pretty much as simply a name change. I believe it's still the same people.

Dave
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 12:08:42 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: f2c converter for MPW???

A recent posting made mention of a p2c pascal>C translator. There is a public
domain fortran>C converter available from att. Does anyone know if this has
been implemented for the Mac?? As an MPW tool would be best, 2nd best would
be a standalone version. I would love it if it worked for MPW C, or even
Think C.

Anyone have any tips??

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 16:27:14 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Marc Dionne)
Subject: Film Recorder (Summurize)

Thanks to everyone how take the time to answer to my question about Film
Recorder.

The question was:

>We are looking for something who can produce slide from an Macintosh.  Does
>somebody has experience >with some product who do that?  Does somebody can
>tell me where I can see an article about that?

And the answer are:

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ---------------

Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1993 08:05:51 EDT
From: "Lisa L.W. Besko" <[e-mail]>

PowerPoint by MicroSoft will allow you to create slides.  They also have a
deal
set up with a company called Genigraphics that will produce the slides for
you,
all you have to to is mail them via snail mail or upload them via your 1200 or
2400 baud modem to Genigraphics.  Some of the people here have been using
PowerPoint and are very satisfied with it.

Lisa Besko

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ----------------

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 93 15:21:02 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Howard M. Fried)

Marc,
    I apologize if this reply is a bit late but I only just saw your
inquiry.

    I highly recommend Polaroid's Digital Pallete Film Recorder.
    It is extremely easy to install and use and it works with any
    Mac application that has a Print and Page Setup command.  It
    uses many different film types, slides as well as instant prints.

    In the US it currently sells for about $4500.  Contact Polaroid
    Corp., 575 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139-9878, ATTN:
    Presentation Products.

I have no connection with Polaroid.  Just a satisfied user.

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ----------------

Date: 13 Apr 93 12:42:25 GMT
From: [e-mail]

There are about half a dozen brands and a dozen models of film recorders
available that connect to the Mac. I expectthe cheapest would be around
4000 US dollars. Some work as PostScript devices, others as QuickDraw.
Freedom of the Press often works with the QuickDraw ones to emulate PostScript
output. (Although I prefer to use straight QuickDraw - it matches what I
see on the screen better (I use ATM of course)). Some of the more expensive
models
can handle formats other than 36 shot 35mm film, using optional camera backs.
E.g. cine, 70mm, 16mm etc.)

I you are thinking of buying, ask about ColourSync compatibility.
Colours are never quite what you see on the screen (because of things like
monitor settings, age of phosphers, quality of film developing...)

I would expect Montreal, for example, to have half a dozen bureaux
offering to film your images if you give them the floppies with the files
on them.

Good luck.

 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 ----------------

I also receive a fax form Yves Cully in ITALY.  The message was in french,
but I think that is preferable to translate it in english.  (Excuse me, for
my bad english).

I use an SlideWriter Matrix for doing slide.  I use Canvas, save in PICT
file and produce slide.  The SlideWriter Matrix is replace by a new model
PCR II.  He have already try different model (Mirus, Polarod, Solitaire,
Dicomed, etc...) and this model have the best cote on quality/price.


Marc Dionne                                 Email: [e-mail]
Universite du Qubec  Trois-Rivires            Tel: [phone], ext 2419
C.P. 500, Trois-Rivieres, Qc, Canada / G9A 5H7   Fax: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: 20 Apr 1993 13:17:16 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions?

     Frequently Asked Questions? (A)
[e-mail] asks:

>This seems to be a circular reference.  Do people frequently ask where to
>find answers to frequently asked questions?  I have been looking for a "FAQ"
>file somewhere in the sumex-aim ftp.  Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

At sumex, in the info-mac/help folder, there's a file called "all-files.txt".
This is a cumulative list of all files in the info-mac directory, and is
updated every time a new file is posted to sumex.  I download a new version of
the all-files.txt file evry few weeks to keep up-to-date.

I did a search of this all-files.txt to find occurences of "FAQ", and came up
with the following:

     /report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt
     /report/csm-faq.txt
     /report/powerbook-faq.txt
     /report/startup-deskpict-faq.txt
     /tech/csmp-faq-1.txt
     /tech/csmp-faq-2.txt

The report folder has many helpful files.  A few other files that make for
good
reading are:

     /report/how-do-i-find.txt
     /report/mac-facts-30a.txt
     /report/mac-facts.txt
     /report/macfacts-ii.txt

Hope this has been a VHA (Very Helpful Answer) to your FAQ!!  ;-)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 16:40:00 +0000
From: "Bob (R.B.) Summers" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Home printers -- B&W or Color? (Q)

Friends

Well, I'm about the spend some real money (mine) and buy myself a
printer to replace a tired Imagewriter.  The candidates are:

  HP Deskwriter 500          $450 Can
  HP Deskwriter 500C         $650 Can
  HP Deskwriter 550C         $900 Can
  Apple Personal Laserwriter $750 Can  (still available, if I hurry)
  Apple Select 300 Laserwtr $1000 Can

Apple Stylewriter II is possible but seems to lag behind the HP in
terms of speed, durability and waterproof ink. (Yep, I know, it has
360 vs 300 dots and good gray scale printing.)

For all practical purposes, the HP 500 seems to be more than an
adequate replacement for my Imagewriter.  I've never printed anything
in color so it seems hard to justify the extra $200 'just in case'.
But I'm not likely to buy another printer for a LONG time either so
I'd thought I'd better ask others, especially about color.

Here's my environment:
 * MacIIsi with orig Apple 13" color monitor
 * 3 girls (13,16,18) (so we aren't talking coloring-book age)
 * No color graphics packages (so far).  (use Word, MacDraw II,
    Hypercard, Think Pascal and other SW packages I use at work)
 * No CD ROM (so far)
 * 12 or so pages per week, mostly school essays, Dad's work or
    Girl Guide stuff.

Will I be sorry if I don't go for color?
What can we use color printing for?  (What do you use it for?)
Is it worth an extra $200 (or $450)?

Please email me directly and I'll summarize your colorful words for
the net.  I'd also appreciate any extra black and white words of
wisdom on any of the above printers or others in the price range.

Thanks for your help

Bob Summers

[e-mail]
Bell-Northern Research / Northern Telecom Ltd
Ottawa, Canada

------------------------------

Date: 21 Apr 1993 14:49:15 -0500 (EST)
From: ROBERT_BROCKMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: How similar are Performas to their "straight" counterparts?

My local Sears has the new Performa 450 in stock for about $1800 (this
is the LCIII equivalent, with 4mb RAM, 120mb hard disk, built-in 2400
baud data/9600 baud fax modem, keyboard, mouse, and the Performa
monitor [which is the good one, same as the current 14" Apple Color]).

My question is, is the Performa 450 essentially an LCIII? I mean, can
I load my own System 7.1 on it? When 7.2 comes out, can I just pop it
on? Will the appropriate system enabler work on it (the LCIII one)? I
love my SE/30, but this Performa is a nice machine: faster and with a
bigger screen (I'm trying to write my dissertation, and this nine inch
screen is driving me up the wall).

Any answer, comments, or suggestions will be gratefully appreciated.


Robert Brockman, aka [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 20 Apr 1993 12:00:03 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to install an FKEY ? (Q)

How can I install ResetWindow FKEY on my PB180 ? I never used Resedit ....

Thank you for your help !

Hans Kroeger
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 21 Apr 1993 07:43:04 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to xfer 150 megs over 3

     How to xfer 150 megs over 350 miles (A)
Clinton Collins <[e-mail]> asks:

>We have about 1500 megabytes of data that needs to be sent to a location
>that is about 350 miles away from us. We would like to send it
>electronically instead of delivering it in person.  This must be done
>once per quarter (4 times per year).  What is the cheapest way? What
>is the fastest way? What is the best way? Best in this case would be
>defined as a very reliable way (ie little need to resend because of
>an error) with a resonable compromise between speed and cost.
>I ask for fastest and cheapest because I am interested in knowing the
>extreme points.  I am assuming that the faster we are able to send it,
>the more expensive the connection.  It is also likely this data set
>could double to 3 gigs within two years.

If you have an internet connection at both ends, you could use FTP to transfer
the files.  Check out info-mac/comm/ftpd-11.hqx.  It allows you to set up an
FTP server and info-mac/comm/fetch-21.hqx is a great FTP client.  File
Transfer
Protocol (FTP) is an extremely efficient way of transferring files over long
distances.  Check it out!   :-)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 19:46:52 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: HP LaserJet 4 to 4M alternatives (Q)

Dear Netland,

My colleagues who use PCs have just bought a Hewlett Packard LaserJet 4.
This has 2 Mbytes of RAM, a parallel port and a serial port. It would be
interesting to link it to our Mac as well. However, the standard upgrade
to turn a 4 into a 4M involves 4 extra Mbytes of RAM, the PostScript II
SIMMs and the AppleTalk interface. This could be expensive. (Got any mail
order prices in the States?)

Does anyone know of an third party driver to use the HPLJ 4 as a QuickDraw
printer, but still giving me access to the 600 dpi and RET Resolution
Enhancement Technology capabilities. Control over which paper tray to use
would be nice too, but that is a luxury. Actually, it does not have to be
QuickDraw - if Freedom of the Press supports the 4, that would be fine too.

Regards,
Bob Kenyon
[e-mail]1
[e-mail]
<C=es;A=mensatex;P=y-net;O=sp1;S=Kenyon;G=Bob>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 07:42:48 BST
From: A.D'[e-mail]
Subject: HP LaserJet III Driver

We have a HP LaserJet III on our ethernet (not postscript) and I would like
to be able to print to it. Does anyone know whether there is a suitable Mac
printer driver if there is where can I download it from?
            Regards, Tony D'Emanuele

------------------------------

Date: 20 Apr 1993 13:23:15 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Icons for harddrives (A)

     Icons for harddrives (A)
"Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]> asks:

>System 7 allows you to copy icon from one infobox to another. I want to
>copy from resedit but can't. What's the trick?

In ResEdit, double-click onthe icon you wish to use to bring up the
icon-editing window.  Choose the selection rectangle tool, drag the selection
rectangle so it encompasses the entire icon, and hit Command-C to copy it to
the clipboard.  Then go into the Get Info window, click on the icon, and
Command-V to paste.

I just had to try this; your question piqued my curiosity.  I don't think
you're able to change the icon of your hard drive if it's being shared; I
*KNOW* you're not able to change its name while being shared.

Have fun!   :-)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 01:17:38 -0500
From: "Paul M. Sheldon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Icons for harddrives in 7.1 free how (A)

I had written:
>   System 7 allows you to copy icon from one infobox to another. I want to
>copy from resedit but can't. What's the trick?
.....
   I attempt to brief the net on what response I greatfully got from:
Brian R.Gaeke
Richard Lim
Jonathan AH Hogg
Jason Y. Kim
Aric Friesen
Ken Schwartk
Thomas Scott
    Thank you guys!
.....
   First sort of trick e mailed me:
   Remember that what you are trying to copy is the PICTURE part of the icon
resource, not the icon resource (at least when you do the following trick).
   Therefore, in ResEdit, go beyond the icon and into the icon EDITOR
(the fatpixels one). Double-click on the icon you wish to use to bring up the
icon-editing window.
   Do a select all on the picture. One way to "select all" (interface
   guidelines
is Double Click on the dotted rectangle in the upper right corner of the tools
pallete  (its right next to the lasso). Another way is Edit Menu's select all
or
command A.
    This select-all puts an animated crawling ants dotted rectangle around
the entire icon on the screen to indicate selection.
    Copy that picture to the clipboard.
    Go to the finder and Get Info (command i) on the file folder or hd
whose icon you want to change. Click on the icon picture in the Get Info
dialog.
    Then Command-V to paste.
.....
   Here's another sort of trick e mailed me (see a little more of the
   inerds):
   The trick is that the icon is kept in an invisible file directly inside the
hard drive "folder" or folder. System 7 does this for all folder icons,
i.e., puts an "Icon" file inside the folder since it can't actually iconize
the
folder (which doesn't exist as a file but as some data bits in the Desktop
file)
   Paste any ol' boring icon into the drive/folder's info
box, then ResEdit will find a hidden file called "Icon" in the
drive/folder top-level which you can open and contains a single ICON family
which can then be edited or replaced.
   Restart the Finder to see the change
e.g. by re-booting or using some Finder killer/restarter like Anti-Finder.
Don't try creating the "Icon" file yourself because it has a hidden
character at the start of the name - always do it as described
"with the Finder".
.....
   Someone questioned:
   Could one change the icon of your hard drive if it's being shared; I
*KNOW* you're not able to change its name while being shared.
.....
Summary:
   To copy icons from resedit, go into the icon (into the editor for the
   icon),
and Select All (cmd-A or under the edit menu) and copy and then you can paste
into the GetInfo box (which effectively pastes what you want of the icon
in a hidden file in the folder or drive top level).
.....
Experiment:
   It worked!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 07:28 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIci memory capacity (C)

In 11-84, Richard Lim opines:

>Remember that Apple is incredibly conservative with SIMMs (and maybe other
>things too) and doesn't discuss the possibility of using 8 or 16 Mb SIMMs
>(I don't include the "new" 72 pin ones here).

Isn't there a more obvious reason? When the IIci was released, there WERE
no 8 or 16MB SIMMs available for it. So all the spec sheets and reviews
gave 32MBs as the maximum memory, assuming the 8 slots were filled with 4MB
SIMMs. Apple simply never revised its specs or documentation, and the usual
anal-retentive data accumulators just mindlessly kept the same numbers in
their spreadsheets and databases, ignoring the obvious new possibilities
when larger-capacity SIMMs became available.

Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 23:29:25 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Requests

I object to the suggestion in today's IM that "experts" like me stop
responding to the easy questions. Heck, they're the only kind I can
answer. Let's not cut off my livelihood. I do what little I can to help
my colleagues on the net, and I get back a marvelous amount of info when
I ask for help. I think that's a helluva deal.

Besides, if it weren't for the real experts like Murph Sewall taking my
hand and guiding me through the intricacies of the internet, I wouldn't
even be able to answer the easy questions. Please don't ask this inpert,
much less the real experts, to stop helping the newbies.

It wasn't all that long ago that we were all newbies. Don't snarl at a
FAQ. Tell the questioner how to get the information for himself or for
herself. Do it privately, unless you deem your answer of value to the
group as a whole. Remember the words of the immortal Andrew Tobias: If
you give a man a fish, you will feed him for a day. But if you teach
him arbitrage, you will feed his whole village. Andy is a bright lad,
but a couple of "his/hers" would have been useful.

I'm not that far away from my own abject ignorance that I can't help
others who happen to be in the same boat this week. I hope I'm never
that far away.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: 20 Apr 1993 18:30:48 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Judy Martinson)
Subject: INTERNET PILOT ANNOUNCEMENT

    APPLE NAMES DISCIPLINE CHAIRS FOR APPLE INTERNET HIGHER
            EDUCATION PILOT PROGRAM

Discipline-specific contacts to initiate dialog and chronicle successes

CUPERTINO, Calif. -- March 22, 1993 -- The Higher Education Division
of Apple USA today announced the appointment of five discipline
chairs to author discipline-specific articles and facilitate discussions
with administrators, faculty and students in conjunction with the
Apple Internet Higher Education Pilot Program.  The Program, which
is available through Internet, allows Internet users to access and
contribute information on the use of Apple technology in the
following key academic disciplines: Business, Computer Science and
Engineering, Library and Information Systems, Mechanical
Engineering and Medical and Health Sciences.

    According to James J. Buckley, vice president and general
manager of Apple USA's Higher Education Division,  Apple Higher
Education has long recognized the challenge of maintaining ongoing
communication with the broadening Higher Education community.
"This Pilot Program provides an innovative solution to this challenge
and demonstrates Apple's commitment to further extend
communication with our higher education customers on the
integration of technology in education."

    A project that continues to grow in scope and content, the
current folders found under The Apple Computer Higher Education
Gopher Server are: Intellimation, a Macintosh software catalog
highlighting discipline-specific offerings; Apple product news; PR
updates on Higher Education news and marketing programs; Apple's
higher education publications, Syllabus and Query; regional news and
market information; and service, support and training.  These six
folders are in addition to the academic discipline folders which will
be facilitated by the new discipline chairs.

    The information resides on a Gopher Server developed by the
University of Minnesota, which was instrumental in co-developing
the Pilot Program and continues to administer the project for Apple.
Apple information is available via the University of Minnesota
Gopher Server at Rinfo.hed.apple.comS Internet domain address.
Gopher client application is available from the University of
Minnesota, which may be downloaded via anonymous FTP from
Rboombox.micro.umn.eduS.

The five  appointed discipline chairs are:

Business:
Eric R. Fliegel
Director of Computing
Emory Business School
Atlanta, Georgia

FliegelUs responsibility at Emory Business School covers a wide range
of computing topics including teaching, research, and administrative
computing.
He has been affiliated with Emory since 1988 and has more than a dozen
years of computer systems experience.

Computer Science and Engineering:
Jon Stricklen, Ph.D
Director, Artificial Intelligence/Knowledge-based Systems Laboratory
and Assistant Professor of Computer Science
Michigan State University
East Lansing, Michigan

Dr. Stricklen joined the Michigan State faculty in 1987 and was
instrumental in establishing the Engineering CollegeUs  Artificial
Intelligence/Knowledge-based Laboratory. The author of more than
30 journal and conference papers,  StricklenUs long-term research
goals focus on extending task-specific architecture approaches to
knowledge-based systems.

Library and Information Systems:
Daniel E. Atkins, MSEE, Ph.D
Dean and Professor, School of Information and Library Studies
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan

Dr. AtkinsU achievements at Bucknell include the development of an
online circulation control system for the university library and
research leadership in the emerging area of collaborative use of
distributed computing.  During his 1990-92 sabbatical leave, Atkins
was involved in the development of a new graduate course in
systems architecture of integrated digital video-communication.

Mechanical Engineering:
Clark Radcliffe, Ph.D
Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering
Michigan State University
East Lansing, Michigan

Dr. Radcliffe has two decades of computer experience and has been
affiliated with Michigan State University since 1980.  His innovative
educational approach has been instrumental in integrating modern
computing concepts into the engineering curriculum for design,
analysis, testing and documentation.


Medical and Health Sciences:
Parvati Dev, Ph.D
Director, Summit
Stanford University School of Medicine
Stanford, California

Dr. Dev has directed the development of computers in medical
education through her current post as director of Summit at the
Stanford University School of Medicine.  Since completing her
doctoral degree in Electrical Engineering on computer models of the
brain at Stanford in 1975, Dev has been affiliated with the research
and training staffs at M.I.T., Boston University, the Veterans
Administration Medical Center and Stanford.


***There will be two additional disciplines added in the academic folder
   with chair people appointed by June.

    1)  Foreign Language
    2)  Schools of Education

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 07:30 EDT
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <[e-mail]>
Subject: I want a capslock key that talks to me! (A)

In 11-84, MARC CLEIREN <[e-mail]> wants a warning sound
when he presses the capslock key.

The commercial product ClickChange (from DublClicks Software) has a sound
module that gives you the option to assign different sounds to pressing the
capslock key and to releasing the capslock key, in addition to hundreds of
other features. (Meaningless ethical disclosure:I beta-tested CC's latest
version, but have no connection with the firm.)
Jeff Needleman  <[e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 12:19:30 +0100
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jap System SW

Having problems with Japanese System software on the network. The
version they use is 701. Have asked the dept to investigate 7.1 and
Word script. World Script not yet on release in uk? Anybody out there
in a similar situation re Jap who may be able to give me some pointers
tips.
thanks in anticipation
gordon,  [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 19:12:06 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: John Snow, Call Home

John, I couldn't REPLY to your mail note of today. Kept getting kicked
back because it'd take 21 steps to get to you and 17 is the max. Seems
odd. Especially since your note got to me. Would you please try again?

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 15:20:04 EDT
From: Randy Patton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Key Combo?

How do I invoke the debugger from the keyboard?  I know it's possible to
reboot a Mac from the keyboard with control-command-powerup, but what
combo brings up the nice box with the friendly DOS-like ">" symbol so
I can escape from nasty crashes by using "g finder"?

E-mail replies more than welcome.

H. Randy Patton, Virginia Tech English Department Technical Coordinator
[e-mail]    pattonr@vtvm1 (BITNET)

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Date: 20 Apr 1993 11:39:31 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Latest Version of TattleTale ? (Q)

In a recent digest Tom Scott mentiones the current version of TattleTale
to be 1.5.4.  Searching archie did not reveale a more recent version than
1.4.1, which does not run on a Quadra with System 7.1.
Can anybody point me to a source where I can get the most recent version ?

Thank you !

Hans Kroeger
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 16:54:51 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steven Arthur Sivier)
Subject: LC III and System Software

[e-mail] writes:

> cartridge.   The machine replied by saying that I needed a system newer
> than 7.1.  It appears that the LCIII requires a harware enabler and will
> not start from a vanilla System 7.1.  As I troubleshot further I found
> that Apple no longer ships the System software disks.  When did this
> policy start?  We ordered these machines directly from Apple as an
> Educational customer and there was no System Software included.  The only
> option short of going to a dealer was to return to school and copy a
> system folder from one of the other LCIII's.  I have dealt with Apple
> Computer since 1980 and they have always shipped the system disks with the
> computer.  I hope that this is not a thing of the past.
>       It looks like a new era of buyer beware with the new Apple.

>       Rick Lakin  [e-mail]

I bought my LCIII through the educational program and I did get a full set
of system disks packed in with the computer.

Steve Sivier
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 16:51:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alan B Saul <[e-mail]>
Subject: LocalTalk and Ethernet simultaneously (Q)

I seem to be missing something. How does one use a local printer
attached to the printer port (a LaserWriter IIg and IIsi) while
still having Ethernet available for file sharing etc? Right now
it seems that you have to go into the Network control panel and
switch from EtherTalk to LocalTalk. One solution would of course
be to spend lots of money to adapt the printer to the Ethernet,
but this is out of the question. Isn't there something simple
that can be done?

Thanks,
 Alan Saul
 [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 13:58 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Greg Trimper)
Subject: Looking for David Oster/Mosaic Codes FOUND!

>I am trying to find David Oster/Mosaic Codes.  He is the author of the

He found me.  Thanks.

Greg Trimper   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 01:37:15 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mac-X & System 7.1

You need to update to Mac-X 1.2 and MacTCP 1.1.1 to run successfully under
7.1.  The older software you have will sort of work most of the time, but
has lots of subtle bugs, including not allowing Hosts to be selected.  Time
to upgrade!
--Peter Szolovits, MIT Lab for Computer Science
[phone]; fax: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 14:32:29 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Mark Davisson)
Subject: Mac IIcx's and 3Com Cards

We are having problem using 3Com's EtherLink/NuBus ethernet card working
with our Mac IIcx's.  We can get MacTCP to work but it floods the
network with TCP resets.  It continues to do so even after we stop the
connection to the requested server.  The exact same setup worked fine
with the Mac II we have.  Help?  Send solutions directly to me and I
will summarize for the group.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 13:53:48 -0800
From: Jerry Wilcox <[e-mail]>
Subject: MACINTAX and ChipSoft (C)

>I just heard through a reliable source that ChipSoft has bought out
>the company that makes TAXCUT.
>
>So maybe with this merge, we can have a better TAX software next year.

See, there are optimists in the world! My personal view is that it is much
more likely that ChipSoft will trash TaxCut the same way they trashed
MacInTax.

(The devil made me do it)

Jerry
-----
Jerry Wilcox - [e-mail]   All opinions are mine alone
Support shared development with TopSoft, write [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 12:57:08 +0200
From: [e-mail] (H}kon Klausen)
Subject: MacX + System 7.1 =..... Trouble! (im-081)

To run MacX on System 7.1 you need to upgrade MacX to version 1.2. This
upgrade also includes MacTCP 1.1.1, which according to Apple is needed for
Sys 7.1.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 19:23:49 EDT
From: "GEORGE L. VENABLE" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MouseMats

   To the person interested in MouseMat replacements on the CHEAP.
I have had good success with the following.
   Inexpensive vinyl placemats. Some are cushioned, and that may or
may not be desireable. But you have an infinite variety of scenic and
not so scenic designs.  Look for those that have a soft vinyl or slightly
textured surface.
   Vinyl binder covers. You can cut the cover off an old (or new) vinyl
three ring binder.  If you use one of the see thru covers, you can put
your own picture in it.
   Suede textured formica seems to work well also, as my computer table
is surfaced with this material.  It does not provide any cushion however,
and that may be disasterous to heavy handed mousers.
   Lastly, get rid of the mouse, and get a trackball. That was my ultimate
solution, as I never have any unobstructed room on my physical desktop.

Hope this answers your and others questions about replacements for MousePads.

George L. Venable MNHEN038@SIVM
President, Smithsonian Macintosh User Group

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 19:16:19 -0400
From: Dave Bachmann <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mousemats

I taped a piece of cardboard (the flat kind) to the desk and it worked fine
for years...until my better half started using the computer and wanted a real
mouse pad.

dave

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 15:04:43 EDT
From: David Virga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mousemats (R)

Peter Smith asks:

>OK folks, here is a *seriously* high-tec question to sort out the real
>hardware buffs: what do you use for mousemats?
>...
>So let's hear those "I went down to the hardware store and for 25 cents got
>something MUCH better" recommendations ...

If you have a local watersports/dive shop, ask them for some scrap wetsuit
material - the nylon-lined type.  I got a whole wetsuit jacket from a shop a
while back, free of charge, and in decent enough shape to make a mousepad the
size of a IIci's flat footprint.

If mousepad mobility isn't a concern, try taping a piece of heavy (ie,
construction) paper to your desk.  That also provides sufficient traction,
though it does wear and will need regular replacement (you can change paper
color for real excitement! ;-)

Many trade show exhibitors are offering free mousepads to the first nnn
attendees, or for filling out a mailing list form.  At the FOSE show in
Wasgington, DC last week, the show sponsors gave out mousepads to the first
1500 attendees each day, and CompUSA did the mailing-list/giveaway thing.  The
drawback here is that you'll probably have to put up with somebody's sales
pitch on your desk.

Dave
[e-mail]

p.s.  What does the winner of this Best Suggestion Contest win - a free
mousepad??

***  MY opinions!!  Don't try to say, "The Government said..."  ***

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 09:37:12 EST
From: Paul Savage <[e-mail]>
Subject: mousepads

>I've just spilt ink over my freebie (and fraying) piece of
>foam-covered-with-cloth that I got with my IIsi. Much as though I love and
>cherish my mouse, I d*mn*d if I'm going to shell out 16 pounds (plus tax
>and postage) just so he can sit on a nice Startrek image, or even 12 pounds
>for a marble effect "Executive Pad" (courtesy of MacWarehouse).
>
>So let's hear those "I went down to the hardware store and for 25 cents got
>something MUCH better" recommendations ...

It looks to me that mousepads are just cloth covered neoprene, which is
exactly what most wet-suits are made of. I haven't done this but I imagine
you could contact a local wet-suit manufacturer, explain what you need and
ask them for a small off-cut of 5mm neoprene. You might just get it for free.

By the way, 12 pounds seems very expensive. Even in Australia (where buying
anything connected with computer equipment requires a second morgage on your
house) you can get them for about $10 (= about 5 pounds).

Paul.

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:55:41 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Need artistic talent for Mech-type game development

Greetings,

I have just started working on a BattleTech/RoboTech/Living Steel/Mekton-type
game for the Mac (the PC crowd already have some, and I have not been able to
find anything in this genre for the Mac).  Being a halfway decent developer, I
can probably handle most of the programming, but I need two things from the
network community out there.  I can't draw to save my life, I have no artistic
talent at all.  Hence, I need somebody to create some Mech icons for me.  Four
facings would be fine, but eight would be great.  Overhead or level view.  Any
variety of Mech types from any of the genres (or new ones).  Preferably color,
but I'll take black and white.  Basically I'll take a look at anything anyone
wants to submit, including background and cockpit graphics.  If anyone has
feature suggestions to make, I'd be happy to receive them as well.

At this point, I can't offer anything in recompense except for very visible
credit in the program and a copy of the game if and when it ever gets
finished.  I'm planning on just releasing this free if I manage to complete
it, but if it ever moves to shareware or commercial I would, of course,
contact any contributors to negotiate royalty splits.

Please correspond with me directly at [e-mail].  I can receive
BinHexed files at that address easily.  If your file is too big to send via
mail, you can anonymous FTP to gozer.idbsu.edu and place it in the
/pub/in.coming directory (I think this is set up correctly).  Drop me a note
and I'll look for it there.

Thanks for your help!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 02:47 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: New Performa Series... Apple Press Release

This is Apple's Press Release on the new line of Performa's in the 400 range
(LCII/III):            (This was downloaded off of Ziffnet/Mac)

Apple Expands Macintosh Performa Line in the U.S. With Three New
Computers

Performa 405, 430, 450 To Offer Color, More Software, Fax/Modem at
Lower Prices


CUPERTINO, California--April 12, 1993--Apple Computer, Inc. announced
today three new models in the Apple Macintosh Performa line of
personal computers, including a value-priced, modular color system,
as well as enhanced software and peripheral offerings across the new
line. The Macintosh Performa is designed to reach first-time buyers
and new users in the home, offering a computing solution customized
for family use.

Today's announcement adds three new Performa models to the existing
line in the U.S.: the Macintosh Performa 405, Macintosh Performa 430
and Macintosh Performa 450. The new models will provide customers
with more options in the popular Performa 400 series.

"Since we introduced the Performa in September, we have gained
acceptance in families with school age children," stated Keith Fox,
vice president and general manager of Apple USA's Consumer division.
"We continue to strive to enhance our offerings to this important
group of home computer users. The new Performa 400 models offer our
customers a broader range of options in affordable modular color
systems."

The Macintosh Performa 200, Macintosh Performa 400, Macintosh
Performa 600 and Macintosh Performa 600 CD, introduced last
September, will remain in the Performa product line unchanged.


FAX/MODEM & LARGER SELECTION OF SOFTWARE FEATURED

For the first time, Apple will include a modem with the Performa
line. The new Performa 400 models will be bundled with a special
version of the Global Village TelePort/Bronze fax/modem, designed
specifically for this new Macintosh Performa series. The
TelePort/Bronze modem allows users to send fax documents from their
computer and access popular on-line services. In addition,

TelePort/Bronze provides Performa customers with a convenient on-line
registration option.

The new Performa 400 line will come bundled with two on-line
services: CheckFree, an automated bill payment system, and an Apple
special edition of America Online. In addition to standard on-line
information services available through America Online, the Apple
version will introduce Apple Club Performa. Apple Club Performa
gives customers access to Apple News and Product Information,
Education Resources, Software Solutions, a Performa User Message
Exchange and on-line access to Apple's Customer Support Center.

Every member of the Macintosh Performa family comes pre-loaded with
software programs. An all-in-one word processor, spreadsheet,
database and drawing application (either ClarisWorks or WordPerfect
Works) will be standard with every Performa. In addition, users will
receive a selection of the following with the new line: The American
Heritage Dictionary, Scrabble, Spectre Challenger, TouchBase,
DateBook, BestBooks, Correct Grammar and Best of ClickArt.

The Macintosh Performa 405, 430, 450, 600 and 600 CD models, will now
come bundled with Macintosh PC Exchange which provides Macintosh
Performa users easy access to DOS and Windows files.

For the first time, the Performa 405, 430 and 450 models are packaged
as a complete one box solution making them even easier to set-up.
Each box includes the CPU, a color monitor, ready-to-run hardware,
optimized system software and pre-loaded software applications.


MACINTOSH PERFORMA 400 LINE

All three new Performa models use the powerful Motorola 68030
microprocessor, and offer one processor direct slot to accommodate
add-in cards and feature seven expansion ports to easily connect
printers and peripherals. In addition, each Performa features
Apple's SuperDrive, a 3.5" floppy disk drive capable of reading from
and writing to disks from Macintosh, Windows, DOS and Apple II
computers.

-- Running at 16 MHz, the entry-level Performa 405 offers built-in
video for displaying 16 colors (expandable to 256) on the 14-inch
Apple Performa Display. The 405 comes equipped with a 80MB hard
drive and 4MB RAM expandable to 10MB.

-- The Performa 430 runs at a 16MHz clock speed and offers built-in
video for displaying 256 colors on its 14-inch Apple Performa
Display. The Performa 430 includes a 120MB hard disk drive which
provides ample storage, and 4MB RAM expandable to 10MB.

-- Running at 25 MHz, the Performa 450 can also display 256 colors
(expandable to 32,000) on the 14-inch Apple Performa Plus Display.
The Performa 450 includes a 120MB hard disk with 4MB of RAM
expandable to 36MB. The Performa 450 provides up to two times the
speed of the Performa 400, 405 or 430.

There is no suggested retail pricing for the Performa product line.
Individual retailers will price the products according to their
specific solutions offerings. However, Apple expects the three new
Performa 400 models to be priced in a range from $1,300 to $1,850.


AVAILABLE IMMEDIATELY THROUGH 2,200 RETAIL LOCATIONS

The Performa 405, 430 and 450 are available immediately in more than
2,200 storefront locations across the U.S., including: Biz Mart,
Circuit City, Dayton Hudson, Good Guys, Incredible Universe,
Lechmere, Office Depot, OfficeMax, Silo, Staples, Tops and selected
Montgomery Ward and Sears locations.

In addition, Apple USA has recently added three new retail
distribution accounts authorized to carry the Performa line. These
are: Brandsmart, Campo's, and Nobody Beats The Wiz.


Apple, the Apple logo and Macintosh are registered trademarks of
Apple Computer, Inc. Performa and SuperDrive are trademarks of Apple
Computer, Inc.

TelePort/Bronze is a trademark of Global Village Communications, Inc.

All other brand names are trademarks of their respective companies.


---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---:---
                    Greg Sachs
[e-mail]                Bentley College
[e-mail]               Waltham, MA
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 10:11:00 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Norton Utilities 2.0 (Q)

Just a note:  I've had lots of bad luck with Norton and lots of good luck with
Mac Tools.  Might be worth a try.

        Aric Friesen

P.S.
    good luck

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 10:23:16 PDT
From: [e-mail]  (Omy Ronquillo)
Subject: Performa 450

I was in San Diego, CA this weekend and SILO (an electronics and appliance
store) was selling their Performa 450 with the following configuration:
    68030 at 25 MHz
    4 MEGS memory
    120 MEGS disk
    .5k VRAM
    13" color monitor with .29 dot pitch
    Global Village Modem Bronze (external)
    software included are:
        Claris Works
        Scrabble and Spectre games
        American Heritage Dictionary
        Check Free
        MAC Check (a diagnostic program)
        On-Line America
        ClipOut DA

This ready to go MAC was on sale for $1699. My cousin bought it and
loves it very much.

Thought I'd pass this to anybody that might be interested.

Omy

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 19:07:37 EDT
From: Christophe CHAUVIN <[e-mail]>
Subject: PhotoGrade

Hi,

I'd like to deactivate PhotoGrade on a LaserWriter IIg : Does anybody
knows how ?

Our IIg 's are only 5 Mb and our users only print text from Windows most of
time and sometimes from Mac. So I'd like to be sure the lasers don't waste
memory trying to "photograde" some documents it's not worth "photograding".

TIA
Sorry for my poor english

Christophe CC CHAUVIN                  CHAUVIN at FRESCP11.BITNET.INTERNET

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 12:57 EDT
From: "S. W. Yuroff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Powerbook External Video (Q)

Dear netters;
    I am the pleased owner of a Powerbook 140.  While this is an excellent
machine, it (and the 100/145/170) has/have one major flaw- the lack of monitor
support.  I was wondering if anyone who has experience with such aftermarket
external video products for the books, such as Enviso notebook Display, Mirror
PowerVision or SCSI devices such as the Radius product or E-Machines SCSI
monitors has an opinion to offer on them.  I was particulary interested in the
Mirror PowerVision, as the latest PRO Pack includes a flyer listing it for
$199 (no RAM, before installation).  I've read the MacUser and MacWorld
opinions, now I'm asking about Yours.

As always, a billion thanks.
Steve.                          [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 08:09:29 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: Powerbook Fax Modem

I need to buy 2 hayes compatible internal fax modems for Powerbook
165c.  The powerbooks have not had the best track record with modems.
So I would like to hear about peoples experience (good and bad) with
modems for the PB.  Especially reccomendations and horror stories.
BTW 9600 baud is minimum 14.4 is perferred!!






thanks in advance bob

PS please respond directly to me as well as posting, thanks again.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 15:25:55 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Dave Hirsh)
Subject: Powerbook Issues

    I was reading the 'Hardware That Fits' advertisement in MacWeek and saw
that they offer a 30-day money back guarantee, no questions asked. I then
got my magnifying glass and spotted the clause, "Sorry, no returns on
Powerbooks". Boy, if that doesn't tell you something about Apple quality
I don't know what will.
   I'm beginning to believe that Apple knows the Powerbooks have an inherent
design flaw that makes the display screens more susceptible to breakage
during what most people would consider 'normal' laptop usage. This includes
transporting the unit. Have you ever noticed that the Apple Powerbook ads
never
show a Powerbook carried in a case but rather under a persons arm ??
We've seen the recent complaints from users stating that Apple has declared
their PB damage as 'abuse' and forced them to pay (sometimes very high prices)
to have their PB display fixed. Look at it this way:
   If Apple were to admit to such a flaw in the PB design, they would be
   liable
for untold millions of dollars in repair costs for Powerbooks. With the thin
margins Apple has now this would probably deal a nasty blow to the finances
as well as end the Powerbooks product life on the market. That's why it makes
sense for Apple to declare PB screen breakage as 'abuse'. How would you fight
it ?? Just take a look at how Apple is handling the mouse problems ......

Think of the repair cost for a COLOR active-matrix display ... I'd rather
not.


Let's not let this issue die, Powerbook owners can't afford to.

Dave Hirsh
Cincinnati,OH

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Date: WED, 21 APR 1993 15:02 JST
From: KAZUYUKI KONKO (TOKYO INTERNATIONAL UNIV.)
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Q:Phonetic-Symbol's font

 I want to need phonetic symbol font.
 Whare can I get it ?

Thanks to everyone who responded.

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Date: 21 Apr 1993 15:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Michael W. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra KO's 486 PC in photoshop 2.5 tests

Anyone else notice the comparison in the latest issue of PCWEEK
(April 19, Vol. 10 No. 15) of Photoshop 2.5 on a Quadra 950
with 8MB of RAM vs. Photoshop 2.5 on a Gateway 2000 33MHz 486 PC
with 28MB of RAM running Windows?

The Quadra really blew it away! They reported that loading a
27M-byte TIFF image took 8 minutes and 9 seconds but only
2 minutes and 12 seconds on the Mac.

When appling the Gaussian blur filter to that same file 27M-byte
file and it took 11 minutes and 34 seconds on the PC compared to
5 minutes and 2 seconds on the Mac.

Score another for the Mac!

Also has anyone else read the report from apple titled
"35 Macintosh Advantages" and subtitled "Reasons why Macintosh
computers have the leading edge over Windows" and dated March 1993?

I thought that it was fairly enlightening. It seems it has always
been very difficult to quantify the advantages of the Mac when you
can't just put your finger on just a few huge differences. I think
most of us know it's the seemingly hundreds of little things that
add up and all work together on the Mac that make it the best
choice for us. (I'm not a Mac bigot - PC's have got a real place
in the world in which they are no doubt the best choice. Of course
the main ones that come to mind are uses where people don't interact
heavily with it ;-).

Anyway I enjoyed it a lot and was wondering if it might be available
in electronic form? If so I would definatly like a copy sent to me.

Thanks,

Michael W. Wheeler (Bitnet: mww@tntech) (Internet: [e-mail])
VAX/VMS Systems Support, Tennessee Technological University

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 21:51:29 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Prof. L.G. Leduc)
Subject: Random StartupScreen (R)

In Digest #83, Tim asks:

>Is there another extension or cdev that allows me to randomly (or in order)
>display pictures in a folder as StartupSreen?


I use Randomizer and it works well on my Mac IIci with System 7.1.

FYI, it is available from the archives at Sumex.

Leo G. Leduc
[e-mail]

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Date: Friday, 16 Apr 1993 9:35 CDT
From: Joel Cunningham <[e-mail]>
Subject: RES  Upgrading LCI, LCII, LCIII to faster machines

Anders Lund writes:

>>Michael Everson, in a feat of tremendous grammatical gymnastics, writes:

>>For my money, The Apple LC/LCIII upgrade seems to be the best buy.  For
>>$599, my local Apple dealer will take my hard drive out of my LC and put
>>it into a brand-new LCIII.  I get virtually a whole new machine.

>This is different from my understanding... If I were to do this to my LC
>all I would upgrade is the  board, I would still have the same floppy drive/
>video capabilities (ie no support of the 16" monitor)....  ANy insight into
>this would be appreciated.

Michael has it right. I did the LC/LCIII upgrade three weeks ago and
except for the floppy and hard drives, *everything* is new. New board,
new power supply, new fan, new case (with "Macintosh LC III" on it).
I also have the capability to display 32,000 colors on my 13" monitor
(using the full screen).
IMHO, this is one of the best deals Apple has ever offered. Go for it.


                  -- Joel Cunningham

                  "Push the button, Frank."

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 12:35:54 EDT
From: Peter Furmonavicius <[e-mail]>
Subject: REXEC for the Mac

Hi.  Does anyone know of any software that implements the REXEC TCP/IP
facility for the Macintosh?

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 12:48:40 CDT
From: Paul Koch <[e-mail]>
Subject: Software Donations

I would like to donate some of my older software to a couple of
non-profit organizations in my community.  But this
cannot be done without violating the license agreements, because the
license to each upgrade overlaps the license to the older version.

It seems a shame to shelve or trash software and documentation
which these organizations could put to good use but cannot
easily afford. On one occasion, I did obtain permission to
donate an older version and was advised that the recipient
would not qualify for upgrade discounts.  This response seems
quite fair to me.  But most of my written requests have simply
not been answered.  (I am sorry to report that even Bill Gates
ignored the personal letter I sent him. (-; )

So my question for you, gentle netters, is this:  How can we
encourage the development of licensing policies which allow
older software to be donated to non-profit organizations?

Among other approaches, we might suggest to software
developers that such a policy will
(1) generate sales by bringing greater exposure to their product,
(2) generate sales of upgrades because users would feel
    better about getting rid of older software,
(3) enhance their public image as a corporation that supports
    charitable enterprise,
(4) bring the benefits of their software to people that
    otherwise could not afford it, and
(5) discourage users from disposing of software in ways
    which serve the interests of software developers much less
    (and could be illegal besides).


One way to implement this idea is simply to send along with each
upgrade (or incorporate into the upgrade order form) a
simple pre-printed notification postcard which says, "I am
donating my/our older version of this software to the
following non-profit organization:  (Name, address,
phone, representative)."

Would this be a problem?

Your comments, suggestions, and recommendations would be
much appreciated.

Charitably yours,
Paul Koch
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 14:56:49 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Paul Antaki)
Subject: Software Licensing Software

I'm looking for a software package that will allow me to track the
applications being used on a group of networked Macs. Ideally the software
would run on a server with an extension located on the individual Macs.
Ideally the software should be able to track the number of copies of one
package in use at once, etc. This is to track usage of software which is
NOT on a server.

I would greatly appreciate any assistance.

Paul

-----

Paul Antaki
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 12:20:17 PDT
From: [e-mail]  (Omy Ronquillo)
Subject: Something about the Laserwriter IIf

I thought I'd share this story here.

Recently, I had the opportunity to "inherit" a Laserwriter IIf with 2 Megs
of memory. Prior to this printer, I was using a Laserwriter Plus and a
Laserwriter IINT. Both printed my FRAMEMAKER documents fine.

When I connected my new Laserwriter IIf, it wouldn't print close to the edge
of the paper as I was able to do on the PLUS.

So I called up Apple and I was on the phone with them for almost one hour and
a half. After all these time, the Apple guy calls me back and says that
this is a hardware restriction.

I couldn't buy this answer. So I went to our repair department and asked if
they
have the SIMMS that can go into my Laserwriter. Fortunately, they did.
After installing 8 Megs of memory, I could now do all the things that I could
with the PLUS and more. I used the Laserwriter Utility that comes with it.

I can configure the printer to be in fine print and high res mode which
approaches the quality of a 600 DPI printer. I am very pleased with the
quality of this printer. I didn't need a Laserwriter IIg after all.

The lesson of this story is to remain persistent and don't trust the Apple
guy on the other end of the telephone. Chances are, you probably know better
than them.

Omy

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 8:22:59 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: Suitcase 2.1.3

      Suitcase 2.1.3
The updater for this program has been released and is on Applelink in the
3rd Parties...Fifth Generation area.  Would someone with access be so kind
as to upload it here?  This version is necessary to kill a number of bugs
that have surfaced.


 Rick Sutcliffe-Trinity Western University Langley B.C. [e-mail]

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Date: 21 Apr 1993 14:32:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Michael W. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Summary: MacX or eXodus (2nd try)

This is my second try at sending this to info-mac. Bill sent the file
back saying it seemed to be messed up. The MAC-L list didn't have any
problem with it. The returned message looked fine all except it had
somebody elses message appended to it. But I changed the line that
said "Thanks to:" to be "Thanks to" just in case some mailer was
choking on the "to:" thinking it was supposed to mail it somewhere
else. Hope it works this time and sorry for the trouble.

 - - - original post - - -
I'd like to thank all those who took the time to reply to my questions
about MacX and eXodus. In summary

    o Both MacX and eXodus support color.
    o You need MacX 1.2 for system 7.1. Which is
      availble on the March 93 CD for those on DEC's
      educations CSLG program.
    o eXodus from White Pine may be a little slower
      than MacX but eXodus is more configurable. However,
      White Pine is announcing eXodus 5.0 which is supposed
      to have some performance improvments according to MacWeek.
    o Performance can be improved by using native Mac windows for
      your clients rather than a remote window manager. This may
      depend on the speed of the host and the connection between
      Mac and host.
    o One report of eXodus crashing when a low level debugger was
      installed. No mention of the version of eXodus or the debugger.
    o MacX doesn't come with FTP support however eXodus does.
    o Some said it was slower than an X-terminal while others stated
      the opposite. Is probably dependant on differences in X-terminal
      speed as well as Mac speed, network speed and load, etc.
    o There was some comments saying that the speed bottle-neck was on
      the drawing speed of the Mac. Possibly the translation of X commands
      to QuickDraw commands and the speed of QuickDraw.
    o Those with experience on X workstations said performance would be
      slower regardless of the Mac setup. If I get a Mac for doing X-windows
      on then I can report my 2 cents worth on that subject later.
    o Over whelming response that MacX was totally brain dead when it came
      to mapping the 3-button mouse to the keyboard. eXodus is supposedly
      a little better in this respect but everyone said BUY A 3-BUTTON MOUSE!
    o Some recommended MacX other recommended eXodus. But the basic tone of
      all the messages was that there wasn't anyone that hated either
      product.
      So since MacX is included with Pathworks for the Macintosh I'll use it.
      If it's extremely frustrating then I'll take a look at eXodus.

Thanks to
    Stan Kerr, [e-mail]
    Spencer Marks, [e-mail]
    Peter Fenyes, [e-mail]
    Glockzin Donald, [e-mail]
    Jeff Schlimmer, [e-mail]
    Dave Leiner, [e-mail]
    Mel Martinez, [e-mail]
    Trevor Hyde, [e-mail]
    Tony Silva, [e-mail]
    F. Arthur Cochrane, [e-mail]
    JP Weaver, [e-mail]
    Brian Hutchison, [e-mail]
    Malcolm Slaney, [e-mail]

for replying to me.

Michael W. Wheeler (Bitnet: mww@tntech) (Internet: [e-mail])
VAX/VMS Systems Support, Tennessee Technological University

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 21:36:03 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: time logging program wanted (Q)

Is there a shareware program that can automatically record how much time
I spend on each program?  I know an init "Private" does it, but I couldn't
find it anywhere.

Help!

Charles C. Hsieh
s

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 00:17:55 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: To FPU or not to FPU...

Greetings Mac netters!

Info-Mac Digest #82 writes:

>>Basically, the call goes like this: anything that actually uses
>>an FPU is faster even on a Colour Classic w/FPU than a Centris 610.

>A lot of people seem to be really worried about the FPU issue.
>MacWeek printed some timing results that showed no significant
>improvement in performance by having an FPU for several popular
>programs, such as PhotoShop, Excel, PageMaker, etc.

I've been watching this conversation whether an FPU is really
beneficial or not with great interest to say the least. I thought
about it for about two minutes and quickly came to the following
conclusion:

Of course the FPU is of benefit, but *only* if it is utilized. This begs
the question, if an FPU increases performance then why is it *not* utilized??
I realize the nature of the application determines how much floating point
arithmetic is required, but I think that a graphic image manipulation program
like Photoshop falls into that class of application that requires extensive
use of floating point arithmetic. Being an E.E., I know a little about what
it takes to perform the enormous set of computations to do graphic image
manipulations, yet I've seen the posts that indicate an FPU-less machine runs
Photoshop as fast as one with an FPU!  Either the posts are incorrect, or the
FPU hardware is not being utilized.

Assuming the posts are correct, then it would appear that the developers of
Photoshop, and any other software developer whose program runs like this are
doing us a disservice by not providing us software that can fully utilize
performance enhancing hardware such as the FPU.

I know there are software packages that allow one to use a floating point
version of their software, compiled with direct 68881/2 instruction calls
versus a version which uses SANE calls to dispatch floating point ops to
either
the hardware or software f.p. routines.  Mathcad from MathSoft, Inc. is one
such
program. If they can do it, why can't other software developers do the same?
Then we wouldn't have to ask the questions of whether performance enhancing
hardware really does enhance performance.

Dean E. Lopez
Engineer II                           [e-mail]
Rockwell Space Operations Co.         [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 13:24:27 -0700
From: Claude Errera <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unmountit

in IM-Digest 11-84,  [e-mail] (Karl Pottie) asks,

>> Also look
>>  for a free utility from Apple called UnMountIt, which I haven't
>>  seen on the Internet yet, but which was uploaded to CompuServe's
>>  MACDEV libraries.
>
>Could somebody upload this to info-mac please ?

Actually, these are already on ftp.apple.com, in the /dts/mac/hacks
directory, under the rather strange name of fsid.hqx.

Hope this helps,

Claude
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 09:14:58 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: UnMountIt (A)

On Tue, 20 Apr, Karl Pottie wrote:

>> Also look
>>  for a free utility from Apple called UnMountIt, which I haven't
>>  seen on the Internet yet, but which was uploaded to CompuServe's
>>  MACDEV libraries.
>
>Could somebody upload this to info-mac please ?

It's not as bad as the ZMAC Exclusives, Karl, but Apple has asked that
any postings be cleared with them first. Maybe one of the Apple lurkers
could post it, but somebody like me sure can't.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 11:16:02 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: Unmountit (A)

>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 16:37:51 +0100
>From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
>Subject: Unmountit
>
>> Also look
>>  for a free utility from Apple called UnMountIt, which I haven't
>>  seen on the Internet yet, but which was uploaded to CompuServe's
>>  MACDEV libraries.
>
>Could somebody upload this to info-mac please ?

It's available from ftp.apple.com (/dts/mac/hacks/fsid.hqx).

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1993 13:22:40 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: UPS Recommendations

Hi all,
   I need to get a UPS for my Mac system and was wondering what anyone  would
recommend.  My system consists of a Mac IIx, Monochome monitor, 1 bit card,
hurdler card, 4 modems, 1.2 Gig external, and a DAT.  I'll also need a surge
arrester for the modem lines.  The UPS in question must also be able to
communicate to the Mac so that in the case of a power outage, the mac would do
a proper shutdown before the battery got too low... and then come back up when
all is normal.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dimitri

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 13:17:39 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Steve Hunter 423-2219)
Subject: VersaTerm-Pro vs. Quadra

    VersaTerm-Pro version 3.5.3 will crash (bomb) your Mac if you
have a Quadra and attempt to change the type of file transfer. The current
publishers, Synergy Software, will sell you an upgrade for this fatal bug,
but they will not give it away even though version 3.5.3 is clearly
defective. Buyer beware!

[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 20:49:37 EST
From: Dimitrios Diamantaras <[e-mail]>
Subject: Weird OzTeX behavior (more comments)

Here is some more info about the strange OzTeX behavior of late. Andrew
Trevorrow responded to my email and was very helpful, but we could not
pinpoint the problem. So far the only way I know to get OzTeX v. 1.42 to
run OK consistently is by booting up with the Shift key pressed. I tried
giving OzTeX lots of memory, and running with only a few extensions and
control panels on (those that I used to run well before the weirdness
started up), but no luck. Unfortunately, I cannot devote the necessary
time to check extensions one by one and all combinations thereof
(especially since a positive result on any given OzTeX run can be a
fluke---this goes even for the positive test I reported a few lines
above, I'm afraid, although I have no counterexamples to that yet).

Dimitrios Diamantaras

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 14:54:16 EST
From: Michael Craymer <[e-mail]>
Subject: What's Mac-L?

In infomacv11-079 Pete Tamas writes:

>I am the one who's brother is going to get SPSS on the Mac based on
>his experiences on the Mac and having used mainframe version of SPSS.
>This has been OK-d by Info-Mac and Mac-L opinion.

What is Mac-L?

Mike Craymer
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 20:37:30 EDT
From: Tony Silva <[e-mail]>
Subject: X server h/w and s/w, including 3-button mice (S)

Here are my OPINIONS on various X-Windows-related Mac products that
I've compared.

I've tried both the Mouse Systems A3 Mouse and the Logitech MouseMan
on my Mac LC III. I like the action of the A3 Mouse (it's optical; the
MouseMan has a roller ball). However, the current CDEV for the A3
Mouse does not yet work on the LC III. Rumor has it that it's due to
an Apple ADB (not Mouse Systems) bug. The folks at Mouse Systems told
me a new CDEV would be released in a month or two. They have an
electronic bulletin board, so getting a new version should be fast
once it becomes available.  The CDEV shipped with my MouseMan also did
not work on the LC III, but a new version was available on Logitech's
bulletin board, and it works like a champ. The MouseMan CDEV also is
more flexible to configure.

And now, moving on to X server software...

On various intensive client-update operations that I tried (xdvi
document previewing, xterm text typeout, plotting and homebrew GUI's
in matlab, etc.), MacX was almost twice as fast as eXodus. I set each
server application up for maximal performance at the expense of all
else.  I should also mention that I have an FPU in my LC III, and that
the version of eXodus I was using (and presumably the MacX
application, as well) uses it.

There doesn't seem to be an easy way to use the Command key as a
Control key in MacX as can be done using eXodus (with the appropriate
"xmodmap" command on the client side). However, you can use the Caps
Lock key instead. This requires removing the latching mechanism inside
the keyboard, which is not that hard to do on my Apple Keyboard II.
eXodus is a little more flexible w.r.t. assignments of mouse/keystroke
equivalents.

I'm very interested in hearing other people's opinions on X-related
Mac h/w and s/w, particularly if they don't agree with my own.  Many
thanks to all who responded to my requests for info:

    [e-mail] (Brian A. Cole)
    Bob Stewart <[e-mail]>
    James Stricherz <[e-mail]>
    Fearghas McKay <[e-mail]>
    [e-mail] (Michael L. Dickens)
    "Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble" <[e-mail]>
    [e-mail] (Stan Kerr)

Tony Silva, Atlantic Aerospace Elec. Corp., [phone], [e-mail]

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